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[In Pencil] I
have begun the list at the Arrington End and then gone straight up the road.
Richard
Carter
Formerly
kept the "Carpenter's Arms" [also known as the "Axe and Compasses"], has been in penury difficulties - is
a carpenter [wheelwright] - and now lives in
the Yard adjoining the "Queen Adelaide" Public House [p18]; his wife [Eliza] is sister to Mrs Thomas Larkins [Elizabeth] [p14]. He has three daughters
and two sons.
Samuel
Bartel and Mary his wife.
They have been keeping the public house for about 1 year. He wants to get a licence from the Magistrates - but failed this year (1845) owing to an informality in his notices. I refused to sign his petition this year - and should do so again - as a girl, his servant, complained to me of his improper treatment of her, and his character (entrè nous) is notorious in that line. His wife is a dawdle, and his children unruly.[Above
transcription corrected against original document on
28 August 2008]
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The original "Axe and Compasses" Public House c1915
showing publican Walter J Tiller with his children. This is one of the few modern-day locations in the "Speculum Gregis" that can be positively identified.
Photo from Ena Bowles (great granddaughter of Walter Tilly)
The pub was destroyed by fire shortly afterwards in c1915. The publican, Walter Tiller, and his family (seen in photos above and below) had to live in an out-house during the rebuild. The new pub (see below) bore little resemblance to the old building. Walter Tilly was sent to France during WWI, contracted TB in the trenches, and subsequently died at the pub in 1921 following treatment at Papworth Hospital.
Photo from: Ena Bowles (great granddaughter of Walter Tilly)
The 'Axe & Compasses' finally closed as a pub in 1937. It is now a private dwelling.
© Google Street View 2009.
Contribution: "Your photo of the "Axe and Compass[es]" is not 1900 - it is probably just prior to the fire of 1915 - the family is my family - they show Walter Tiller with his children - one of them is my mother Maria May Tiller who was born in 1910 in Croydon - Walter died in about 1921 as a result of injuries of the first World War. I have traced my mother, to her mother, Charlotte Tiller, then Maria Gates, then Charlotte Gates and then Patience Knights, all from the Croydon area. My mother always talked of her childhood in Croydon with fond memories and told me many tales of the village life!" - Ruth Knipe via Guest Book, 29 January 09.
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Richard Carter (c1800-?) = Eliza ? (c1805-?) |
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Cathrine Carter (c1826-?)
George Carter (c1829-?)
Jane Carter (c1833-?)
Rebecca Carter (c1835-?)
Boy (?-?)
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1841
Census:
Richard Carter (aged 40), Wheelwright,
Eliza Carter (35) wife,
Cathrine Carter (14),
George Carter (11),
Jane Carter (8)
Rebecca Carter(6).
Alfred Warboys (16) Apprentice Alternative
local spellings: Bartel, Bartell and Bartle.
Samuel
Bartle took part in the 1832 Croydon Riot and
was sentenced to three month's imprisonment.
James Bartel =
Mary (?) |
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Samuel Bartel (c1809-?) = Mary A ? (c1810-?) |
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James Bartel (c1833-?)
Samuel
Bartel (c1837-?)
Thomas Bartel (c1839-?)
Sally/Sarah Bartel (1841-?)
Selina Bartel (1843-?)
Charles Bartel (1845-?)
George Bartel
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Jane Ann Bartel (c1850-?) |
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James Bartle dismissed from Sunday School. "Entered the School January 1843 aged 11 years. He attended very irregularly, was idle and very disorderly and was dismissed by me May 1845" - Rev Francis Fulford. 1841
Census:
Samuel Bartell (aged 30), agricultural labourer,
Mary Bartell (30) wife,
James Bartell (9),
Samuel Bartell (4),
Thomas Bartell (2)
Sarah Bartell
(6 months).
1851
Census:
Samuel Bartell head marr 42 ag lab born Croydon,
Mary A Bartell wife 41
b Somerstown London,
James Bartell son unmarr 18 ag lab b Croydon,
Samuel Bartell
son unmarr 14 ag lab b Croydon,
Thomas Bartell son unmarr 13 ag lab b Croydon,
Sally Bartell dau 10 b Croydon,
Selena Bartell dau 7 b Croydon,
Charles Bartell
son 5 b Croydon,
George Bartell son 3 b Croydon,
Jane Ann Bartell dau 1 b Croydon,
James Bartell relation widower 85 Ag lab pauper receiving parish relief, born
Cockayne Hatley, Bedfordshire. Croydon Parish
Baptisms 1840-1845:
3 January 1841,
Sally
Bartle, daughter of Samuel and Mary,
labourer;
30 July 1843, Selina Bartle, of Samuel and Mary, labourer;
17 August
1845, Charles Bartle, of Samuel and Mary, publican. |